Tony Ennis's Podcast Episodes about Tech vs Media

One of the best podcasts I listened to this week - good example of how to talk about important things without having the conversation devolve or get heated.
Vincent seems smart but overly cynical. One of those people who has important insights but whose disdain dampens the credibility of his claims. He can be irritatingly condescending.
Courtland and Vincent clearly have very different opinions on the Tech vs Media debate, and you can tell neither is holding back. But because there's trust between them, the conversation remains a conversation.